The most popular bodybuilding message boards! They don't understand how a broken leg or asthma when they were a kid can come back, they don't understand how mental issues are severely exacerbated under stress-- because they think their phone breaking is stress, and they dealt with that just fine. Option 2: Lie. May 6, 2020. So I handed all of my medical and education records that he said to not worry about to the recruiter. Because the military does not. Fraudulent Entry can get you kicked out of the military. But Im afraid that they will go back on my medical records and find out I lied . Press J to jump to the feed. By logging into your account, you agree to our. I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didn't they found it at meps . Looking at your previous 11 posts it looks like you might be joining the Marines. I know a guy who lied about lasik because he didn't want to wait 6 months and nobody at meps found out. I went through in 2011 after Lasik. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. As long as you werent taking the pills within 90 days it wont pop up so just dont talk about them. Also, while you wait for a reply from a subject matter expert, try using the search feature! These include conditions like depression, bipolar disorder, epilepsy, heart issues, Asperger's, and PTSD. What do you think will they look back on my medical records after finding a heart murmur ? Yes, you need to be caught in the lie, but that isn't as difficult as you might think. Handle this the right way, as you should all things. Currently trying to fill out a packet for OCS, but my recruiter informed me that meps declined my medical history. Once you have gone through initial questioning phases with your recruiter and have discussed your options, your recruiter will set an. I got both of these surgeries in order to be a seal, and would fucking hate if the reason I can't get in are the very surgeries I got in order to qualify for training. This includes lying by omission (leaving information out) and lying by commission (purposefully misleading). Thanks for the details. He runs like 6 miles a day on it perfectly capable. Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. Now they say I need more information such as previous eye prescription, doctors notes, and more. Do you really think your little writeup is going to convince anyone dead set on lying? Lying will. Our advice is consistently not to lie at MEPS. If you are denied entry to the military, it is very possibly the best thing for both you and the government. I would say lying at meps is a low risk high reward type of deal. I lied at meps . He told them. Am I in danger like my friend said? You are using an out of date browser. Let's Talk 3..e-mail: nathaliemunoz@live.comSubject "Let's Talk" you can send me anything you want from any topic!Previous LET'S TALK:1. https://goo.gl/jim. Know all the risks and procedure limitations. Also it is about what job that you are going to do as a Officer. You were torn and want to be honest. They said "No problem, we'll work around it." See TheBeneGesseritWitch's guide on Paths to become an Officer. This was the man who my friend had confessed his pot usage to when we first showed up a month ago, but now my friend lied to him and he accepted the lie without hesitation. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I had lasik about 6 months ago and the recruiter originally told me that all I would need is a letter filled out by the doctor. This disorder was triggered in BMT from a previously undisclosed mental condition. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. So its been about 2 weeks now and have been too scared to talk to him. Option 2: Lie. If you are denied entry to the military, it is very possibly the best thing for both you and the government. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tool+bag&defid=1959463. I got LASIK a few months ago, I know the minimum time from surgery to MEPs has to be at least 6 months. It is possible to lie about your depression during MEPS (Military Entrance Process). I've done the 1 month check and will do the 6, 3 months is coming up so I'll have to get that on the books. Just something to think of. About 3 years before joining the Air Force, his cousin attempted suicide. We have been contacted by major union legal teams regarding this issue. He said the tests they do would not notice the lasik scar it's only if you tell them you had lasik that they do more in depth tests if there's any issues. ; and he asked my friend if he had ever smoked pot. You need to provide all documents not just a cover letter or info sheet. Discomfort after surgery is minimal, and vision recovery usually takes place in 1 to 2 days. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. Make it impossible to lie? In hindsight, had I known this disaster of 'hurry up and wait' would happen I would have waited another month to check in. Its in your best interest to get through MEPS. Just get off the meds asap, and keep your shit together for however long your recruiter says you need to. Lying will. I had lasik back in November and just had an enhancement to my left eye on Friday that I've been stressing about. For every one of these little vignettes there is an outstanding Soldier, Sailor, Airperson or Marine that said "No" when asked, and is out there doing outstanding shit. What is the biggest lie you have ever told or been told, The following errors occurred with your submission. With his counselor, they decided he should try medication (Sertraline/Zoloft) for control of his symptoms. Want to learn about deploying, finances, mental health, cross-rating, and more? I called the head recruiting office in my district and he said the same thing (trust but verify), that letters of rec are no longer considered important to packages. For some reason the Pacific breeze didnt reach that area. Downside, potentially get caught, hit with fraudulent enlistment, permanently disqualified. He stopped seeing the counselor after only 6 months from beginning counseling and successfully continued his college education. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I wouldn't recommend it (even ignoring the important integrity aspects of your question. You should have had a post-op visit to measure refractions at 90 days post-op and then another 30 days after that visit.https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/centers/ceneoddive/ndstc/documents/manmed_chap15.pdf. I knew she couldn't hack it but she joined anyways). Good luck to you. The flap is then placed back into its original position. Integrity is what you do or how you act when no one is watching. I even believed that my OR would appreciate my persistence in trying to get more info while he is on leave this week. Nice guy and not pushy. This experience also likely caused further stress and worsened his long-term mental health because he was suddenly out of a multi-year career, and wasted many weeks of his and the Air Force's time. Tough but that is what it is when they find out. They are looking for consistency". It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. Take the advice and think on it. When we started to fill out similar questions with the recruiter I started saying 'yes' on some of the questions. I was completely honest and I served honorably for 8 years. During the MEPS process, recruits may be tempted to lie about past events. I genuinely had not considered that the way I'm acting could be considered morally suspect, or aggravating to the recruiter. The paper requests numbers from the pre-surgery, 90 days after pre-surgery, and a month after that. Stuck waiting for MEPS to process my info from Military to Military as well as MEPS to MEPS. If you struggle from any of the conditions mentioned below, it is a good idea to speak with a local U.S. Military recruiter. First, you didn't believe your OR so you called his boss who said the same thing, and then you come here looking for validation of the opposite advice. So ur saying stay off the pills for 90 days and I doesnt come up?how? Station commander looked at my medical paperwork and said word-for-word: " You stick to the script. x10 bus middlesbrough to newcastle price. Lost the navigator slot and was made a C130 mechanic. 21 years active duty,kept my mouth shut about stuff that just did not need to be amplified. Or should I be honest with my recruiter and if I cant get a waiver, lie at MEPS. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. Telling them what I told the recruiter and what he told me. I think the individual is still at the MEPS stage of enlistment, and if I have understood him correctly, he is awaiting a medical waiver of sorts. Now an MTI's recommendations are definitely considered, but they are really just a tiebreaker if the waiver authority is 50/50 on a case, and MTI's certainly do recommend separation sometimes. This is a process a person goes through after they have gone through the medical screening to join the army. Learning has occurred - give it time to sink in. Second, I got a ganglion cyst removed last summer. Further, he won't be able to enlist nor commission in any branch of the military ever again. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. they'll find out if you need a Top Secret security clearance or if the issue comes up. According to evidence presented at his trial, the Jacksonville military veteran was designated in July 2000 by the Department of Veterans Affairs as 100 percent disabled for bilateral blindness. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Do people go to jail for lying at MEPS? Know preoperative, operative, and postoperative . Should I lie at MEPS and if so will I likely get caught? No personally identifying information (PII). Okay, so I need some advice. AF gives thumbs-up to pilots who had LASIK surgery - News - Stripes, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. If it won't come up again or if you don't need a TS-SCI, you can get away with not telling. He hadn't been "prescribed" an anti-depressant because he only took some medicine on a short, trial basis. KUDOS! I lied at meps . You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. Lasik and Meps processing Currently trying to fill out a packet for OCS, but my recruiter informed me that meps declined my medical history. When did the AF start allowing pilots that have had LASIK? Unless you know it's a legitimate issue that impairs your physical and/or mental ability to carry out your duties, don't say a thing. Shoulda been a dishonorable. And yet when the recruiter tells them to lie so he doesn't have to do paperwork they always believe him that no one will find out. PERIOD. Never got caught. I swear I was born in the wrong generation. Has "just asking for a friend" EVER worked, even if true? Ive had the doctor write two letters and both have not been good enough. Then I met his boss; Sub-station commander. He also said that as long as I take care of it before I leave, I'll be fine. 2. Further, patients often don't ask what their diagnosis is--the patient is focused on their problems and not the administrivia in a medical record. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. 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