The man's disjointed comments lead Cooper to believe Dale murdered his wife and children who have been missing for several years; Dale claims his wife fled with the children when he was imprisoned. Kristen Stewart was nominated for a Young Artist Award for her performance in the film. Written by Richard Jefferies. Or what? 1996-2022 Screen It, Inc. Once they realize that, they have several close calls with those snakes and more, including one that strikes out at Cooper and another that falls on his shoulder. 5.0 (23,095) 37. JULIETTE LEWIS plays his white trash girlfriend who has sex with him, uses strong profanity, is drunk, and briefly smokes. Leah shows some cleavage in her swimsuit. We are introduced to Cooper, his wife Leah and their kids Jesse and Kristen in the hectic life of living in NYC. 1 hr 58 min. Cooper and his family slowly make their way through the dilapidated house that still has the belongings of the former residents in it (although everything's in disarray). DISRESPECTFUL/BAD ATTITUDE Cooper decapitates a snake. None Biography He grew up in Cold Creek Manor, with an abusive dad. Addresses are not passed on to any third party, and are used solely for direct communication from this site. It's presumed it was hit by a car, had its head bludgeoned (as happened to Dale's family) or had its throat slit. Dale, recently released from prison, initially appears to be a good, kind worker. Dale Massie is the main antagonist of the 2003 film Cold Creek Manor. Plot points are so easily predictable it isnt funny: Coopers daughter Kristin (played by Kristin Stewart) gets a horse, so something must happen to that horse and it does. Cooper isn't happy about that and leaves for a while. He only stops when the sheriff aims her gun at him. We see some small photos of a teenager showing her bare breasts. By entering this site you acknowledge to having read and agreed to the above conditions. One character briefly smokes a joint. He has a good grasp of what the rules are, which makes it all the more baffling that the film doesnt follow any of them. Cooper cuts off a poisonous snake's head (with brief and slightly bloody results). He uses some profanity. Scenes listed under "Violence" might also be unsettling, suspenseful or scary to some viewers, mostly younger ones and those with low tolerance levels for such material (others will have little or no such reaction to them). A Blu-ray edition was released September 4, 2012.[11]. Cold Creek Manor is a psychological thriller that came out in 2003. One with Quaid and the other with Dorff. Dale Massie is a scruffy, yet muscular ex-con who claims he has no hard feelings about losing his house to these city slickers. Old Mr. Massie prattles on about his late wifes promiscuity and calls Dale the corrupt spawn of your whoring mother. Dale says his own wife had an active social life as well. Sex/Nudity OUR WORD TO PARENTS: Ruby, who appears to be drunk, then joins him and orders several rounds of shots for the two of them. Cooper agrees and we then see him and others drinking. "Cold Creek Manor" is another one of those movies where a demented fiend devotes an extraordinary amount of energy to setting up scenes for the camera. With the locals becoming suspicious of them and Dale becoming increasingly unstable, Cooper and his family try to uncover the mystery regarding him and his former home before it's too late. Cooper isn't happy about that and leaves for a while. Those scenes and several others have varying levels of bloodiness, and may be unsettling, suspenseful or scary to some viewers, mostly younger ones and those with low tolerance levels for such material (others will have little or no such reaction to them). Moving into a new home. The noise. 4.6 out of 5 stars. RYAN WILSON plays her younger brother who somewhat becomes obsessed with a dark poem written by the boy who lived in the house before him. Phone: (818) 560-1000. Plot After their young son is nearly run over in the street, Cooper and Leah Tilson decide to give up high-flying careers in New York City and move to the countryside. He was protrayed by Stephen Dorff, who also portrayed Deacon Frost in Blade. A family relocates from the city to a dilapidated house in the country that was once a grand estate. When you think you'll get an explanation as to why Dale Massie is wanting the house back and kill the current owners, you don't. Mike Figgis directed, composed the music for, and produced . Cooper hears someone in his house, thinks he sees someone approaching on the other side of some hanging plastic, and punches that person (but it turns out to be Leah). She smokes a lot, always an ominous sign, and is ambiguous about Dale -- she loves the lug, but gee, does he always have to be pounding on her? He then puts his hands on her butt and then under her short skirt, pulling down her panties in the process. They then try to get away from the intruder through the dark house. As Cooper Tilson attempts to protect his family from Massies psychotic ways, he also starts to piece together the mystery of Cold Creek Manors past well, actually its Dale Massies past, but Dale Massie isnt half as interesting a title as Cold Creek Manor. Extreme I just hope its the kind of movie families will actually be able to watch. As they settle in, Cooper starts to research the previous owners, and eventually meets Dale, one of the former owners of their house. A photo shows a bare-breasted young woman while an older woman is seen in her panties. None. The husband was trying to get better cell reception, so he wasn't near the well when his wife was shoved in. Accordingly, he turns from friendly and helpful to increasingly volatile and dangerous. Hi. We learn that a person killed his family sometime in the past and then see him kill his father. Cooper cuts off a poisonous snake's head (with brief and slightly bloody results). Miscellaneous people drink beer. Director Mike Figgis (who in the past brought us Leaving Las Vegas and the brilliant film Timecode) really should have his camera taken away from him. About 50 profanities or obscenities, including f-words (17), s-words, exclamatory uses of Gods name and several harsh misuses of Jesus name. The movie stars Dennis Quaid and Sharon Stone as Cooper and Leah Tilson, who get fed up with the city and move to the country, purchasing a property that looks like the House of the Seven Gables crossed with the Amityville Horror. Blood/Gore [9], Todd McCarthy of Variety called the film "a woefully predictable imperiled-yuppie-family-under-siege suspenser that hardly seems worth the attention of its relatively high-profile participants. Two featurettes are included. GUNS/WEAPONS Dale Massie is the killer. RYAN WILSON plays her younger brother who somewhat becomes obsessed with a dark poem written by the boy who lived in the house before him. Dale smokes a number of times, while Ruby smokes once and various miscellaneous characters smoke in several scenes. Figgis talking during a scene transition says Lets say this is a month later. Dale comments on Leah saying that he could have "f*cked" her anytime he asked. Quaid starred in a similar film in 2019 called. Plot [ edit] Bad writing lets the characters make bad decisions, hiring the former house owner (who broke in to have a look around) to fix the pool instead of asking him to leave or calling police, or worse, characters dont pass on what easily seems to be crucial information to other characters. We see several tools on a wall, and Dale says that they're killing hammers with spikes in them, used to kill farm animals (some viewers might not like the thought of that). After purchasing an abandoned manor and all of its contents through a bank foreclosure, the Tilson's begin to restore the grand home. To recap for people who havent seen Cold Creek Manor: Dennis Quaid and Sharon Stone play Cooper and Leah Tilson, two New York parents who find themselves being swallowed up by the city and decide to take their family to a safer place. Were they possibly thinking of doing maybe a revenge sequel? Taking a break from his multiple-perspective digicam experiments, helmer Mike Figgis displays at best a half-hearted interest in delivering the commercial genre goods, while Dennis Quaid and Sharon Stone fish in vain to find any angles to play in their dimension-free characters". TENSE FAMILY SCENES When my wife and I went to see it opening night in the small town that we lived in at the time, it was sold out. Again, why wasnt this clarified in the film? A horse is killed and dumped in the family swimming pool. ImitativeBehavior SHARON STONE plays his wife, an executive who wants to get their family out of harm's way when things get too precarious. WHY THE MPAA RATED IT: R If you want to say that, why didnt you say it in the movie? Sheriff Ferguson is dedicated to keeping the peace, and becomes a refuge for the Tilsons when Dale turns the rest of the town against them. Should you still be concerned about the film's appropriateness for yourself or anyone else in your home, you may want to look more closely at our detailed listings for more specific information regarding the film's content. We see an old drawing/picture of a man holding a knife to a child. So there's this family in New York City, but they want to get away to someplace less hectic, so they buy a run-down old house in the country. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. He only stops when the sheriff aims her gun at him. Were they possibly thinking of doing maybe a revenge sequel? Days go by and Dale proves to be anything but helpful. The movie is an anthology of cliches, not neglecting both the Talking Killer, who talks when he should be at work, and the reliable climax where both the villain and his victims go to a great deal of inconvenience to climb to a high place so that one of them can fall off. We then see a shot of them (through a window with blinds that obscure much of what we're seeing) having sex, with movement and related sounds. The assailant falls several stories to his death. Read full review 40 In their new home, which is beautiful but in need of work, the Tilsons find out that even though they are the new owners, the house has a story to it. Guns/Weapons Dale has a bad attitude toward Cooper and his family and sets out to harass and get them out of his former house. That movie isnt perfect by a long shot, but it throttled back where Cold Creek Manor goes overboard. But no. We see the point of view of someone approaching Cooper. Leah tells Cooper that her boss asked her to sleep with him. Ruby wears a midriff-revealing top. Two people clothesline a third with a rope that they then use to tie him down to a skylight. We see a rear view of Leah in her small panties as she gets out of bed. An intruder breaks through a door to get onto the roof. SHARON STONE plays his wife, an executive who wants to get their family out of harm's way when things get too precarious. He dumped them down into "The Devil's Throat," which is a well in the woods. Moderate To end this month of fear and fright, a look back at Touchstone Pictures Cold Creek Manor. Dale slaps Ruby violently, then punches men who come to her aid before Sheriff Ferguson draws her pistol. Unfortunately most of that content is mediocre and just acts as a reminder of how poor the movie really is. It is in anamorphic widescreen format with audio tracks in English and French, and subtitles in Spanish. Cooper secretly tapes Dale's father in a nursing home (to use in a documentary). The screenplay by Richard Jefferies tells the story of a family terrorized by the former owner of the rural estate they bought in foreclosure. Miscellaneous people have beer in a restaurant. So they chuck it all. It eventually earned $21,386,011 in the United States and $7,733,423 in foreign markets, for a total worldwide box office of $29,119,434. As Cooper sorts through the mess in the house, he comes across many old documents and photographs, and decides to record the history of the building on film. Hes an actor that brings so much passion and energy to the screen that despite all the failings of a movie, Quaid can make a character shine. If you are bored and have nothing else to do, why not. A babbling old man threatens to whip his son bloody. Instead the section turns out to be Figgis talking about having to film the movie as a movie, and the documentary parts as a documentary, and the home video parts as a home video. Dale says that he hasn't seen his kids since his wife left with them some time ago. SUMMARY: In COLD CREEK MANOR, a family thinks they're getting away from New York City and entering a quiet haven in their new mansion in the boonies, but when the creepy former homeowner shows up and strange things start happening, the family must quickly figure out some long . I thought that was incredible and must mean that Cold Creek Manorwas on its way to box office success. SMOKING However, dont go out of your way to check in at Cold Creek Manor. Synopsis Leah Tilson (Sharon Stone) gets out of bed on a busy morning in New York City at 4:30am. Halloween is soon upon us, and this is the time for a scary movie. Cooper has a little bit of a bloody lip. There was a problem. CAST, CREW, & TECHNICAL INFO His girlfriend, Ruby (JULIETTE LEWIS), tells Cooper to watch his back, but her sister, Sheriff Ferguson (DANA ESKELSON), doesn't initially seem able or willing to help. All Rights Reserved, Roger Ebert was the film critic of the Chicago Sun-Times from 1967 until his death in 2013. Moderate Dale goes after Cooper and Leah, and Cooper kills Dale by shattering the skylight on the roof of the house and Dale falls to his death. One character briefly smokes a joint. The movie starts out in the city with the stereotypical hustle and bustle lifestyle that drives everyone into the country. The Tilson's stay at Cold Creek Manor and Dale is buried in the family cemetery on the Manor's grounds. The intruder then tries to hit Cooper who blocks those attacks with a ladder. Im eager to see what she does next. "Cold Creek Manor" was directed by Mike Figgis, a superb director of drama ("Leaving Las Vegas"), digital experimentation ("Timecode"), adaptations of the classics ("Miss Julie") and atmospheric film noir ("Stormy Monday"). Also, what was exactly the train of thought for the family to believe the father killed the horse? He then tells Cooper that he should buy the next round for everyone there as a gesture of good will. Oswald the Lucky Rabbit Diffuser Disney100, Bill Gowsell has loved all things Disney since his first family trip to Walt Disney World in 1984. Dale belches after eating. I was hoping for a fright, and on this rewatching of the film, I found myself losing interest in the movie. Remember the abstract passing of time I mentioned before? For violence, language and some sexuality. This is Thesecret1070. . Cooper shatters the skylight, sending Dale to his death. Everything he does is after a look at the script, so that he appears, disappears, threatens, seems nice, looms, fades, pushes, doesn't push, all so that we in the audience can be frightened or, in my case, amused. Also, the cast is solid. DVD. Wanting to escape New York life for the countryside, Cooper (Quaid) and Leah Tilson (Stone), along with their two children, move into a dilapidated old mansion still filled with the possessions of the previous family. The screenplay by Richard Jefferies tells the story of a family terrorized by the former owner of the rural estate they bought in foreclosure. Who the heck expects a country hick jailbird type character to be European about his cigarettes? Dale is suspected of having murdered his own family in similar fashion. After Jesse is almost killed in an automobile accident, Cooper decides it is time to get out of the city. Ruby tells her sister, the sheriff, that she fell (instead of admitting that Dale punched her). Documentary filmmaker Cooper Tilson (Dennis Quaid) and his professionally. Jesse is nearly struck by a vehicle when he darts out into traffic. A truck, presumably driven by Dale, chases after Cooper in his truck at night, through the woods and after both have been drinking. We see various poisonous snakes in various places through the house, including in Leah's bed, in construction plastic along the ceiling, under Jesse's bed and under the fridge where Cooper reaches, unaware what's there. window.dataLayer = window.dataLayer || []; To top it off, Dennis Quaids character gets drunk about halfway through the movie and Quaid himself seems to stay that way through the rest of the film. DANA ESKELSON plays Ruby's sister, the local sheriff who drags her feet in taking action against Dale and uses some strong profanity. Cooper drives home while a bit intoxicated shortly after drinking many shots of liquor. When the girlfriend is at Dale Massey's grave at end of movie, it seems like it showed her angry face and then cut away to the credits. We see a photo of a boy holding a rifle. Violence I n "Cold Creek Manor," Dennis Quaid and Sharon Stone star as Cooper and Leah Tilsonworn out Manhattanites who flee the city with their children to create a simpler life in rural Upstate New York. Cold Creek Manor is a 2003 American thriller film directed by Mike Figgis, and starring Dennis Quaid, Sharon Stone, Stephen Dorff, Juliette Lewis, Kristen Stewart and Christopher Plummer. Its a real fixer-upper with a dark past. ALCOHOL OR DRUG USE Dale comments on Leah saying that he could have "f*cked" her anytime he asked. For those concerned with bright flashes of light on the screen, some instances of that occur in several scenes in the film. COLD CREEK MANOR is a heart-pounding thriller that will keep you on the edge of your seat in tension-filled suspense. We see Jesse with a paintball rifle. Dale Massie is not a villain in this movie, but an enabler, a character who doesn't want to kill but exists only to expedite the plot. asks a helpful local. The intruder then tries to hit Cooper who blocks those attacks with a ladder. [2] On Metacritic which assigns a weighted mean score the film has a score of 37 out of 100 based on 31 critics, indicating "generally negative reviews". We see bloody water in the swimming pool and then see an underwater shot looking up from the bottom to reveal the silhouetted shape of a dead pony floating on the surface. Other new and recent reviews include: After Cooper asks what she did, she says she said yes, but that an emergency phone call prevented that from happening. Dale punches Ruby and then punches several people who try to restrain him. "Cold Creek Manor," starring Sharon Stone and Dennis Quaid, is true to all the worn-out clichs as it depicts the tale of a family being terrorized by a madman. He uses some profanity, drinks and drives, and becomes jealous of his wife. I don't think someone could fly out from NYC and come help him within that timeframe. But COLD CREEK MANOR is definitely not a horror film. In rural Bellingham, they buy up the huge old Cold Creek Manor, which is going cheaply, and convert it into their dream house. He was trying to get better reception on his walkie talkie to alert the sheriff, and he didn't know the killer was in the area. Cooper Tilson, his wife Leah and their two children, Kristen and Jesse, move from New York to the country after purchasing a mansion. When he is not spending time with his family, Bill can be found at the bottom of a lake . "Cold Creek Manor" is another one of those movies where a demented fiend devotes an extraordinary amount of energy to setting up scenes for the camera. Dealing with bullies and/or the psychotic. The pollution. Yet in "Cold Creek Manor," a rather plain suspense film, I don't think there is even one thing that happens that I didn't foresee. Question: When the girlfriend is at Dale Massey's grave at end of movie, it seems like it showed her angry face and then cut away to the credits. MUSIC (INAPPROPRIATE) So, how exactly did the horse die? We see a pool of blood on the floor next to a person. One then hits the third several times with a pick-like device, eventually causing the skylight to break and the third person to fall through it, another skylight and then hard to the floor below (where he's presumably dead). The movie of course issues two small children to the Tilsons, so that their little screams can pipe up on cue, as when the beloved horse is found in the pool. We see bloody water in the swimming pool and then see an underwater shot looking up from the bottom to reveal the silhouetted shape of a dead pony floating on the surface. 2023's Most Anticipated Sequels, Prequels, and Spin-offs. One afternoon after a heated argument with Dale, Cooper finds a dental retainer along with human teeth in the gravel of his driveway, which he compares to old photos and finds it matches that of Dale's daughter. There is not one moment on screen that says to me that Dale is trustworthy. Dealing with bullies and/or the psychotic. At Bay Area theaters.) [3] Audiences surveyed by CinemaScore gave the film a grade "C" on a scale of A+ to F.[4], Stephen Holden of The New York Times observed, "A serious filmmaker like Mike Figgis can be forgiven, I suppose, for slumming, when he's got a cast as stellar as the one that infuses the scream-by-numbers thriller Cold Creek Manor with more psychological credibility than its screenplay merits". Its almost like the script purposely makes the audience want to dislike Leah, so they muted Stone from being able to make her presence known in the film. Eventually the previous owner Dale Massie (Stephen Dorff). NY 10036. Realizing he needs to figure out what happened at the manor, Cooper goes to interview Dale's father (CHRISTOPHER PLUMMER), who's in a nursing home, but all he gets out of him is something about the Devil's Throat. Scenes listed under "Violence" might also be unsettling, suspenseful or scary to some viewers, mostly younger ones and those with low tolerance levels for such material (others will have little or no such reaction to them). Sheriff Annie Ferguson, Ruby's sister, is initially skeptical about Cooper's accusation but later slowly starts to believe he may be correct. We see video of a teenager in a bikini in a pool. Not to mention that hitting an animal the size of a horse would cause far more damage to the vehicle than a broken headlight. Leah's boss offers to give her a promotion if she spends the night with him while on a business trip. Cooper is convinced that Dale is responsible, acting out of spite. Dale goes after Cooper and Leah, and Cooper kills Dale by shattering the skylight on the roof of the house and Dale falls to his death. Sharon Stone is awesome. Cold Creek Manor Woefully predictable imperiled-yuppie-family-under-siege suspenser. His father expected his son to have had the Manor in his possesion, but when he looses the house to the government due to short payments, it becomes abandoned and the Tilson family moves in. Especially the whole 'getting a dead horse into the pool while drunk' part. Her husband, Cooper Tilson (Dennis Quaid), reminds her to reset the alarm clock to wake him up in time to get the kids to school and go to work. So he convinces the Tilsons to hire him as a handyman. Violence consists of several deaths (from smothering, a fall and unknown means), while attempts on others' lives also occurs. We see Kristen in a bikini. Cooper (DENNIS QUAID) and Leah Tilson (SHARON STONE) have decided to give up the city life of New York for the countryside of Bellingham. He talks about the rules of the genre, pacing, music, editing, etc. We see a rear view of Leah in her small panties as she gets out of bed. Kristen finds a piece of wood with the word "evil" on it and is then surprised by her brother. JULIETTE LEWIS plays his white trash girlfriend who has sex with him, uses strong profanity, is drunk, and briefly smokes. The Tilsons hesitantly agree, but soon find things going downhill from there as Ray slowly start to show his true colors. Phrases: "Don't f*ck with him," "He'll rip your f*cking head off," "Shut the f*ck up," "Back the f*ck away," "Get the f*ck out of here," "You f*ck," "Oh sh*t," "You'll sh*t blood," "You little sh*thead," "You piece of sh*t," "You're full of sh*t," "You scared the sh*t out of me," "Corrupt spawn of your whoring mother," "Screwed up," "Where the hell /is he going/are you going to do about it?" What I saw from the trailer was not what I got when I saw the movie. We see a photo of a teenager giving "the finger." Curious if this title is entertaining, any good, and/or has any artistic merit? Leah's boss offers to give her a promotion if she spends the night with him while on a business trip. Since he began writing for Laughing Place in 2014, Bill has specialized in covering the Rick Riordan literary universe, a retrospective of the Touchstone Pictures movie library, and a variety of other Disney related topics. Music(Inappropriate) The next shot she is talking to Sharon Stone and the windshield is dry. Parents, get practical information from a biblical worldview to help guide media decisions for your kids! Rooms look beaten up, filled with the relics of the previous family, and then they are clean and neat and redone, while other rooms still have walls that barely hold the room together. Dale goes to Devils Throat and punctures Cooper's truck tires. "Creep," "Shut up," "You little bastard," "Whore," "Piss for brains," "Bitch," "Go lay an egg," "Pissing me off," "Pissed me off" and "Nuts" (crazy). One then hits the third several times with a pick-like device, eventually causing the skylight to break and the third person to fall through it, another skylight and then hard to the floor below (where he's presumably dead). Dennis Quaid as Cooper Tilson; Sharon Stone as Leah Tilson; Stephen Dorff as Dale Massie; Dana Eskelson as Sheriff Annie Ferguson; Juliette Lewis as Ruby; Christopher Plummer as Mr. Massie; Kristen Stewart as Kristen; Ryan Wilson as Jesse. KRISTEN STEWART plays the Tilsons' moody teenage daughter who doesn't like Dale from the get-go. The lights go out in the house and Cooper and Leah hear someone smash a window and then break things in the house (we see that as it occurs). The movie plays like an all-star episode of This Old House for the first hour, a telenovela for the next 30 minutes, then, finally, a hack boogeyman flick in the last reel. Belonging to the same genre as Pacific Heights, Fatal Attraction, Cape Fear and The Hand That Rocks the Cradle, this methodical, occasionally eerie thriller taps into our innate desire to protect family and home from a psychotic outsider with an axe (in this case, killing hammer) to grind. What is the Japanese language plot outline for Cold Creek Manor (2003)? Her husband, Cooper Tilson (Dennis Quaid), reminds her to reset the alarm clock to wake him up in time to get the kids to school and go to work. Cooper and his family slowly make their way through the dilapidated house that still has the belongings of the former residents in it (although everything's in disarray). QUICK TAKE: Eskelsons rsum may not be as extensive as those of her co-stars, but thats sure to change. Cooper accidentally punches his wife in the face. We see the image of a somewhat decomposed and mummified face on a video playback. The film stars Dennis Quaid, Sharon Stone, Stephen Dorff and Juliette Lewis.. A bumper sticker in the sheriffs office reads, Feel safe tonight. Coopers quick trip to the corner store turns into an unscheduled drinking binge at the adjacent bar. For Violence, Language and Some Sexuality, The Blind Man Who Did Not Want to See Titanic, The Mandalorian Tries to Find Its Place in Third Season, The Unloved, Part 111: Devil in a Blue Dress, Female Filmmakers in Focus: Cauleen Smith on Drylongso, True Lies Fails to Capture the Charm of the James Cameron Original. They buy a decaying mansion that was in foreclosure and began to restore it into their dream home. Profanity consists of at least 19 "f" words, while other expletives and colorful phrases are used. Cooper then tries to rescue her (with a rope that she climbs), all while the assailant might be looming nearby. Leah tells Cooper that her boss asked her to sleep with him. The Tilsons are always leaving doors open even though they know terrible dangers lurk outside, and they are agonizingly slow to realize that Dale Massie is not only the wrong person to rehab their house, but the wrong person to be in the same state with. 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